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what is up everybody

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day is it it's thursday right wow what a

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week

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it has been just a pretty uh loco

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yesterday we had mr steven bassett for

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and he um laid it on us he gave us a lot

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of good dirt on

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disclosure and what that process looks

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like and

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what

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a lot of kind of

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behind-the-scenes information about a

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lot of things everything from ttsa to

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to louis zondo and why things are

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happening with the congressional

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hearings what to expect and all that

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um so i really appreciate his time he's

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he's uh entertaining as always

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and he's such an easy interview um it's

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he's just a pleasure to hang out with

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talk with and

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and so on and so forth and we had mr j

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it's always a pleasure to have him of

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as he is

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just a phenomenal person

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um what's up to everybody in the chat

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right now uh we're waiting on our guest

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mr ryan burns uh he has not um

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showed up here yet um so we're waiting

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on that

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when he gets here we will bring him

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straight in

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um hello to everybody in the chat we

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have lauren uh robert vapid

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steve shaw what's up craig what's up

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everybody else uh make sure to like the

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video

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and subscribe if you haven't i

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appreciate it

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um that would be fantastic and uh today

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we had

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uh the news about uh nasa getting in on

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the game of studying uaps

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which is very interesting

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kind

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of left a bit to be

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desired the initial like press release

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subsequent uh presser that i pull that i

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post on this page here

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um was a little bit better

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in my opinion they

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you know that the the interesting thing

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about this is is this whole time

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that they're doing this with the press

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release and

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and the presser is they're talking about

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nasa's

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you know astrobiology efforts and

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you know trying to find life

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uh elsewhere in the universe and how

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they've been doing that for a long time

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and and they put a lot of resources and

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efforts to that

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and that's true

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they definitely do do that

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but why do you

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um i don't know intelligent life

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you know so i mean here's the article if

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you haven't read it you can also go on

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my twitter page

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and read it for yourself i'll put it in

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there it is

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oh that's the wrong

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um that is the wrong link i just give

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you a link to come into the video if you

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but i'm not going to let you do it

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i'll kick you out

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but yeah

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the the article is pretty interesting i

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mean we're waiting for for truth is what

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i'm really waiting for and they were

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um pretty much

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all day so hopefully

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you know like

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hopefully they just get to the point and

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they uh you know

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give us the deal

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as far as what is actually

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uh happening in the skies and they stop

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uh kind of

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um we have our guest

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sorry for babbling i just had to delete

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that stream yard link in there so we

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don't get any bozo showing up

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unannounced

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uh but we have our guests in the chat so

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when i get back we will bring

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uh mr ryan burns in and we will get on

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cool

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say that the recent sightings are

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[Music]

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so yeah we're going to get this off we

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got mr ryan burns with space wolf

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research it's another effort just on the

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other side of skinwalker ranch um and mr

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ryan has been at it for a bit now so i'm

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interested to get his take on everything

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going on at that ranch

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and uh hear what he has to offer so

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without further ado let me bring him in

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uh mr

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how are you today sir

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doing okay how are you doing

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good good thanks for joining us i do

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appreciate it are you streaming in from

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from uh from the research lab

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i am not i am

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that's even better

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even more freaky stuff happening over

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and looking at um the different aspects

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of a skinwalker ranch and you know the

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triangle thing there that they have a

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lot of anomalies around there and this i

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i was like what the heck is this

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not too much did a little digging um and

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and i thought uh you had some

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interesting stories so i wanted to bring

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it on and i i thank you for doing that i

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to my truck and asked them if they

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that they had a very necrotic look about

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them very greasy very dead looking very

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skinwalker i had never heard that term

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have like kind of an odd experience

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what put you in the spot to where you

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were like i want to get further into

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this and and start investigating the

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area i suppose

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and that all just kind of came it

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amazing things back then unbeknownst to

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was the government military involvement

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that everybody now knows is declassified

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um and

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it was interesting because i've since

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befriended the guards that were in the

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you know i at the time i i would say you

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know talking to family and friends you

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know it's kind of strange i've got these

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black suburbans outside of my house and

294
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and this seems to uh they seem to be

295
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kind of focused on me

296
00:11:36,710 --> 00:11:34,399
and uh later on as i befriended these

297
00:11:38,550 --> 00:11:36,720
people this is

298
00:11:40,790 --> 00:11:38,560
many many many years later they said

299
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yeah that was us that was us you know

300
00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:42,720
you weren't being paranoid that was us

301
00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:46,079
that was just our job so

302
00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:49,360
they weren't what were they doing

303
00:11:53,269 --> 00:11:50,480
you know

304
00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:53,279
yeah just doing their job just uh they

305
00:11:57,750 --> 00:11:55,279
knew that there was some young kid out

306
00:11:59,590 --> 00:11:57,760
there and that he was

307
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uh

308
00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:01,279
within the parameters that they would

309
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consider an active epicenter of activity

310
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right and they

311
00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:10,720
figured out where i lived and it was

312
00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:12,560
nearby and they

313
00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:14,560
would post up from time to time and just

314
00:12:17,269 --> 00:12:16,160
kind of keep tabs

315
00:12:18,870 --> 00:12:17,279
and

316
00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:18,880
yeah that's about it just doing their

317
00:12:25,269 --> 00:12:22,550
yeah

318
00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:25,279
okay

319
00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:27,040
uh yeah i'd be a little paranoid it's

320
00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:28,959
like hey buzz off you know this is my

321
00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:30,480
property but

322
00:12:35,030 --> 00:12:32,639
here you take it a little better than

323
00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:35,040
than i would perhaps um

324
00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:37,920
so were you conducting your own kind of

325
00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:40,160
like experiments or

326
00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:43,440
um tests at the time and if so what was

327
00:12:47,269 --> 00:12:45,040
like your process what were some of the

328
00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:47,279
different experiments that you conducted

329
00:12:51,190 --> 00:12:49,040
and do conduct

330
00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:51,200
yeah back then uh like i said i was a

331
00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:55,519
young kid i was i was really um

332
00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:58,320
trying to do my best to

333
00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:00,880
engage with the phenomenon in a way

334
00:13:04,470 --> 00:13:03,040
that you would engage with an animal or

335
00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:04,480
um

336
00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:06,959
you know just hunkering down

337
00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,880
waiting for things in the badlands of

338
00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:11,040
the united base and to pop up and then

339
00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:13,600
just like uh stepping up with my night

340
00:13:18,310 --> 00:13:15,440
vision or my

341
00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:18,320
uh cameras or recorders and trying to to

342
00:13:24,230 --> 00:13:21,839
get it uh capture it at least uh in some

343
00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:24,240
sense sometimes you could other times

344
00:13:27,829 --> 00:13:26,000
you couldn't and

345
00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:27,839
some of the displays were amazing and

346
00:13:31,430 --> 00:13:29,600
nothing would show up other times the

347
00:13:32,829 --> 00:13:31,440
displays were amazing and something

348
00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:32,839
would show up

349
00:13:38,310 --> 00:13:34,800
so uh

350
00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:38,320
that was then now uh when when

351
00:13:41,269 --> 00:13:39,440
i

352
00:13:44,069 --> 00:13:41,279
found an area called the southern

353
00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:44,079
vantage point it was coined that term by

354
00:13:49,110 --> 00:13:46,560
previous investigators than myself

355
00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:49,120
i started getting in into the common

356
00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:51,920
channels talking to the veterans if you

357
00:13:56,389 --> 00:13:52,880
will

358
00:13:57,590 --> 00:13:56,399
uh that were investigating the property

359
00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:57,600
at the time

360
00:14:02,389 --> 00:13:59,920
and there was a property at that point

361
00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:02,399
it was an abandoned ranch a smaller

362
00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:03,920
ranch head i guess is what they would

363
00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:06,880
call it abandoned for many years

364
00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:09,360
and it was coined the southern vantage

365
00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:11,760
point because it was on a higher bluff

366
00:14:15,269 --> 00:14:12,639
than

367
00:14:17,670 --> 00:14:15,279
some of this verdant valley or the path

368
00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:17,680
of the skinwalker as they call it

369
00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:19,360
and you could see pretty much everything

370
00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:20,720
east to west

371
00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:22,639
all over the place at night it would

372
00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:25,279
transform to a very great location just

373
00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:27,440
a bird's eye view of everything

374
00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:28,800
so

375
00:14:33,350 --> 00:14:31,680
later on when this property became

376
00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:33,360
available for sale

377
00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:34,639
i

378
00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:38,160
took over a year

379
00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:39,440
to actually

380
00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:41,360
come to terms with the people that were

381
00:14:46,150 --> 00:14:44,000
selling it but i did purchase it and i

382
00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:46,160
purchased it just to uh

383
00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:48,399
start space wolf research

384
00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:52,480
and the idea there was just to uh

385
00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:55,760
basically get an idea of what's going on

386
00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:57,519
and use

387
00:15:02,150 --> 00:14:59,680
different technologies and sometimes

388
00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:02,160
lack thereof uh very

389
00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:05,120
very primitive technologies

390
00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:06,000
uh

391
00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:07,519
depending on you know what we were

392
00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:09,680
trying to engage with sometimes

393
00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:11,760
you know if you need to get

394
00:15:16,069 --> 00:15:14,160
aerial phenomena then you definitely i

395
00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:16,079
spoke with chris o'brien

396
00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:17,040
and

397
00:15:21,110 --> 00:15:18,880
they have a unique

398
00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:21,120
unidentified aerial phenomena tracking

399
00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:23,440
camera system that was placed on the

400
00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:24,959
property

401
00:15:30,269 --> 00:15:26,720
other things if you're more trying to

402
00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:30,279
engage with the uh more

403
00:15:35,189 --> 00:15:32,959
witchcraft-oriented trickster entities

404
00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:35,199
in the area then you use a totally

405
00:15:42,629 --> 00:15:38,240
different approach something much more

406
00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:42,639
basic and primal um things like uh

407
00:15:46,550 --> 00:15:44,399
and and you know and these are things

408
00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:46,560
that i got directly from the source i

409
00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:49,279
mean these are things that the previous

410
00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:51,120
researchers were using

411
00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:53,040
and uh yeah those would work so

412
00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:55,279
sometimes very primitive stuff other

413
00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:57,040
times very high tech

414
00:16:01,350 --> 00:15:59,040
when you say previous researchers are

415
00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:01,360
you talking about like bigelow and and

416
00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:02,800
all that

417
00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:06,079
absolutely uh bigelow is hats off to

418
00:16:08,949 --> 00:16:07,120
bigelow

419
00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:08,959
and there were previous researchers as

420
00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:12,000
well such as ryan leighton chris o'brien

421
00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:14,320
right uh junior hicks

422
00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:15,920
uh jack valet

423
00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:17,519
um

424
00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:20,560
frank salisbury yeah

425
00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:22,480
it's amazing how many people have put

426
00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:25,279
time into that so from you know your

427
00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:27,839
experience and in the different uh you

428
00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:29,680
know experiments and things that that

429
00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:31,680
you've done first of all it seems like

430
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:32,639
you

431
00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:36,880
on um and it's not all one

432
00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:39,040
but um i would say

433
00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:40,880
you know expanding on that what's what's

434
00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:42,880
kind of your take on on what's happening

435
00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:44,399
there

436
00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:52,560
experimenting with the various research

437
00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:54,000
methods to

438
00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:55,040
detect

439
00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:56,560
anomalies and more importantly

440
00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:59,279
anticipate them because a lot of these

441
00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,639
anomalies

442
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:01,920
tend to

443
00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,400
although they don't reproduce exactly in

444
00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:06,319
the same way or manifest exactly in the

445
00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:08,799
same way they seem to utilize many of

446
00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:10,559
the same locations

447
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:13,199
which uh brings about the idea of

448
00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:15,600
portals or

449
00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:18,000
you know these area areas where there's

450
00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:21,600
a terror in uh the veil so to speak

451
00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:26,240
and you know whether it is um something

452
00:17:31,669 --> 00:17:28,880
mind-blowing like a portal manifesting

453
00:17:34,549 --> 00:17:31,679
or bodies piling up of various animals

454
00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:34,559
that shouldn't be in the area

455
00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:36,160
some of these things happen in the same

456
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:39,520
points of interest so it's it's kind of

457
00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:41,679
kind of cool to try to

458
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:43,840
not only detect the anomalies but

459
00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:46,000
anticipate them and see how closely you

460
00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:49,440
can anticipate them and there's a lot of

461
00:17:55,270 --> 00:17:51,360
a lot to be said there because

462
00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:55,280
there's a lot of consistencies and uh

463
00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:56,480
one

464
00:18:01,830 --> 00:17:58,640
example

465
00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:01,840
is there is a hilltop where various body

466
00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:04,559
parts of different animals that are not

467
00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:06,320
naturally occurring in the area would

468
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:07,520
show up

469
00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:10,400
and in that same location you would have

470
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:11,200
other

471
00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:13,360
light phenomena take place

472
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:16,640
and this would typically happen on uh

473
00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,850
particular moon phases

474
00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:20,400
[Music]

475
00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:21,200
the

476
00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:27,840
air like that drizzle that seems to

477
00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:29,120
energize

478
00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:31,280
a lot of the functionality of whatever

479
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,559
it is uh is using those areas

480
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:35,919
well

481
00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:38,400
so i would i would say you know do you

482
00:18:41,909 --> 00:18:39,520
have

483
00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:41,919
do you take videos of this stuff how do

484
00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:43,440
you document

485
00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:44,880
uh what's

486
00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:47,200
you know what happens

487
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:49,280
you know um i'm not in it for the money

488
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,440
and it's it's one of those things that i

489
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:53,840
don't share a lot of what we do gather

490
00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:57,039
it's much much in the uh

491
00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,559
much like the bigelow era is kind of how

492
00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:02,720
you know if spacewolf research had a

493
00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:05,520
motto it is what would bob do

494
00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:07,600
and

495
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:09,760
you know not broadcasting our findings

496
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:10,880
in fact

497
00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:12,960
some of the findings are so phenomenal

498
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:16,400
that uh well

499
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:18,320
they're just so phenomenal that it's

500
00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:20,559
it's it's difficult not to broadcast

501
00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:21,679
them

502
00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:24,559
um as an example i will use this as an

503
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,720
example i have not come forward with

504
00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:28,240
this information

505
00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:31,120
at all with anyone not even on any of my

506
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:33,600
personal channels um

507
00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:37,039
and it is uh a mind blower uh so there

508
00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:38,559
is a

509
00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:40,160
there's a portion on the property it's a

510
00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:42,640
smaller property but it's quality not

511
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:44,160
quantity for sure

512
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,200
and there is uh there have been historic

513
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:49,440
events on that property which

514
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,600
phenomenalized my view of the area one

515
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:53,520
one such event

516
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:56,160
uh involved a gentleman named rich

517
00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,559
oliver another one named matt a girl

518
00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:59,840
named april

519
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:01,360
and

520
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:04,480
they all had probably one of the most

521
00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:07,760
traumatic dark experiences

522
00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:10,080
in this epicenter of activity

523
00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:11,919
and it was only years after i purchased

524
00:20:16,630 --> 00:20:13,200
the property that i found out it

525
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:16,640
happened right on my property and

526
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:19,120
rich has since passed due to brain

527
00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:21,520
cancer what's odd is that they all

528
00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:23,039
believe they were implanted with

529
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,559
something in

530
00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:26,320
in their nasal cavities

531
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:28,960
so uh they believed that this entity

532
00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:31,280
implanted these

533
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:33,760
devices in their nasal cavities and then

534
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:36,640
rich oliver past of brain cancer so

535
00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:38,640
there is some

536
00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:42,480
but getting back to some of the

537
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:44,159
anomalies that i haven't shared with

538
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:45,440
anybody

539
00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,280
and

540
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:49,600
most recently this is this is

541
00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:51,360
fascinating

542
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:54,960
a recent anomaly that took place

543
00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:57,520
happened in a in a similar area within

544
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,559
just a few feet of where a 40-foot rv

545
00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:02,400
that i had purchased and put on the

546
00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:04,799
property as a

547
00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:06,640
base of operations

548
00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:08,880
uh it was vaporized in the middle of the

549
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:12,159
day by a lightning bolt or what appeared

550
00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,080
to be a lightning bolt middle of the day

551
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:16,799
just hit there vaporize nothing left

552
00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:18,480
except molten metal

553
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:19,679
and

554
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:22,799
uh it burned part of a cabin structure

555
00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:24,480
we had built there about half of it

556
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,559
burned that half half of that down when

557
00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:28,720
we've rebuilt since

558
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:32,480
however in this same location i decided

559
00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:33,919
to uh

560
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:37,520
place a 40-foot storage container

561
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:39,840
and this 40-foot storage container

562
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:42,400
weighs roughly 8 700 pounds

563
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,880
has a variety of technol technology

564
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,080
inside of it

565
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:48,640
and um the weight of the stuff inside of

566
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:51,120
it obviously adds more weight to it

567
00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,400
and this is an interesting um dilemma

568
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,000
because what i'm about to tell you like

569
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,880
i said i have not shared with anyone

570
00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:00,320
this uh

571
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,760
40 foot container that was facing

572
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:05,360
east to west

573
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,480
and

574
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:08,480
was

575
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:11,120
positioned in such a way to sort of

576
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,909
we shut down the majority of the cameras

577
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,120
other than game cameras and the

578
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:21,200
periphery and stuff and that's when a

579
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,240
lot of the

580
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:24,240
best stuff happens is when you shut down

581
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,159
the cameras because that's not the only

582
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:28,240
type of evidence you can gather

583
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:31,440
so we have this iron structure 40 feet

584
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,840
by you know

585
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,039
eight feet

586
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:37,600
and um

587
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:41,600
this is mind-blowing to even say

588
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,840
i get a call from a gentleman at the

589
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:45,520
property who

590
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,360
checks on its security and he's also

591
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:48,880
like a caretaker

592
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,080
and i get a call from him this was just

593
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:54,880
a few days ago and he says i see you

594
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:57,280
moved the container

595
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,679
and i said no i didn't move the

596
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:01,280
container

597
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:03,200
and he said well it's not in the same

598
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:04,480
spot

599
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:06,880
so immediately we both knew

600
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:09,760
hold on let's start checking this out

601
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:13,200
there were no uh he started checking the

602
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,520
the ground there's absolutely no

603
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,600
disturbance on the ground whatsoever no

604
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:19,360
tire tracks

605
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:20,480
no

606
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,559
thought is somebody maybe drug it with a

607
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,400
truck or something like that there's

608
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,039
absolutely zero drag marks very heavy

609
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:31,039
structure very soft ground it would

610
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,320
leave something not even so much as a

611
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:36,720
blade of grass is out of place

612
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:37,840
and

613
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,400
this container appears to have been

614
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,880
airlifted by something

615
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:45,440
or someone or some how

616
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,080
airlifted from one position

617
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:50,799
to another position and the other

618
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:53,600
position it was facing east to west now

619
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:56,240
it's facing north to south it's about 30

620
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:57,520
feet away

621
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:00,799
and it is so close to two structures

622
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:03,120
that it seems impossible at least

623
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,640
humanly possible

624
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:06,720
to get a storage container that close to

625
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:08,640
these two structures without damaging

626
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:09,760
them

627
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:11,760
it's within millimeters of another

628
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,240
trailer and i mean you could barely put

629
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:16,720
a piece of paper through there without

630
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:19,919
getting it stuck and then it's about an

631
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:22,720
inch from this cabin at the closest spot

632
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:25,279
the only telltale sign that made us

633
00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,880
realize that it was moved

634
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:30,640
somehow airlifted

635
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:32,720
uh because there's nothing on the ground

636
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:36,000
is that there was a dent a small dent

637
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:37,919
coming from the top down

638
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,440
on the roof of the cabin that is

639
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:43,840
next to it that it is now one inch away

640
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:46,159
from at the closest spot and it appears

641
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,640
to have been dropped from the sky

642
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:49,840
and it

643
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:51,600
just happened to

644
00:24:57,190 --> 00:24:55,279
barely touch this tin roof and bend it

645
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:57,200
in a way where you can tell it came from

646
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,360
the top down so that's the kind of

647
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,440
anomalous activity that

648
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:03,679
is just mind-blowing yeah i mean what

649
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,240
would even be the point of of something

650
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:08,559
or whatever wanting to do that other

651
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,279
than

652
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:11,279
wanting to just screw with you

653
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:12,840
exactly

654
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,799
so

655
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,679
well

656
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,600
yeah i mean

657
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:21,679
did you take a picture of like your your

658
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:24,640
burnt rv and all that kind of stuff and

659
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:26,799
you know the the different spots

660
00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:30,880
of of the container and all that and

661
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,480
yeah how do you not want to just show

662
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:33,840
people

663
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,760
i know you know

664
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,760
and and

665
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,120
you know it's

666
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:41,360
yeah we do document it all we do get

667
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,039
pictures of it all

668
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,200
we've had some help by neighbors you

669
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,760
know that have witnessed things and

670
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:49,279
um

671
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,760
it's it's just very uh

672
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:53,760
very interesting because we do document

673
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:54,559
it

674
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,080
that

675
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:02,080
the fear is if you share it

676
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,720
maybe um it will lose its potency and

677
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,279
sometimes hanging on to some of that

678
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:08,720
information

679
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:11,840
you know as you said there is

680
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:14,880
a trickster mentality to this phenomena

681
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:18,480
and it appears to like to engage in a

682
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,360
way

683
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,520
that keeps you uneasy keeps you on your

684
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,200
toes

685
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,960
and we like to engage in a way that

686
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:27,039
keeps it on its toes

687
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:30,320
and so um it loves games it loves games

688
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:32,720
whether that be child's toys placed in

689
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:34,000
the vicinity

690
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,240
um that will activate uh whether that be

691
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:40,799
trinkets that are moved from one area to

692
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,480
the next it just loves to play the game

693
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,799
wow well

694
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,559
what do you what do you think do you

695
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,480
think it's like a dead soul or it's

696
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:52,480
coming from you know

697
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,440
a

698
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,400
or

699
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:58,480
do you think the land's just cursed from

700
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,480
you know previous

701
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:02,559
you know times or

702
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:03,919
you know

703
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,240
the the the trickster's got to get

704
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,919
something out of this right like what is

705
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:09,520
it getting out of this

706
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:11,840
i don't understand yeah

707
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,320
yeah i i think all of the above possibly

708
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,480
there is a shift that happens when you

709
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,880
engage with this phenomenon that you

710
00:27:22,230 --> 00:27:21,360
know much like that initial experience i

711
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,240
had

712
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:24,480
with um what seemed to be a

713
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:26,320
shape-shifting witch

714
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,080
this uh trickster apparently

715
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,240
not only enjoys

716
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,799
the game but they feed off of it somehow

717
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:37,039
they feed off of

718
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,760
these emotions this unscriptedness in an

719
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,000
archonic way it appears

720
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:45,039
and it really revitalizes it and uh

721
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,080
it rises the more the more energy that

722
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,039
you place into the scenario

723
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:54,000
it it seems like the more energy it

724
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:55,360
gathers from

725
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,399
from the exchange and some of the some

726
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,399
of the best minds in the field and some

727
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:02,399
of the scientists that have been

728
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,960
placed in this epicenter of activity

729
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,240
have said

730
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:09,679
that there is

731
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:12,559
a very real exchange that takes place

732
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:14,960
that every time you engage with this

733
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:17,679
phenomena it takes a piece of you and

734
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:19,679
now exactly what they mean by that i'm

735
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:22,960
not sure but it enjoys it and it does in

736
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:24,320
fact

737
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:26,799
get something out of it

738
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,559
man that's that's incredible but do you

739
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:32,240
still like spend the night there and

740
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:33,600
everything

741
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,880
do you

742
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,480
like find yourself

743
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:38,240
maybe i just want to stay away from this

744
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:39,520
or

745
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:41,039
you know

746
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:43,120
have you experienced the the old

747
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,710
naturally i have experienced the

748
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:51,200
hitchhiker effect something that you

749
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:53,919
know luckily uh george knapp and colin

750
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:55,679
kelleher in their new book skinwalkers

751
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,559
at the pentagon have very they

752
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,240
articulated this very well and i think

753
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,240
they described it very well

754
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,240
and it is something that people are now

755
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:06,159
recognizing as a true

756
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:09,360
phenomenon something that is in fact

757
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:10,559
uh

758
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,880
attaching itself to individuals and

759
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:14,720
coming home with them regardless of the

760
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:16,240
distance that they

761
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,520
uh travel

762
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:18,880
and

763
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,559
it is it is

764
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,240
something new that's emerging through

765
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:24,799
all this a very quantum

766
00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:26,399
science because

767
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,440
time and space seem to hold no

768
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:32,640
boundaries to some of these entities and

769
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:35,279
precognitive intelligences that

770
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:36,640
can

771
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:41,760
follow all right

772
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:43,679
have you found any sort of closure since

773
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,720
your your you know main experience that

774
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:48,320
that brought you here to begin with that

775
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:52,480
was with a potential skinwalker itself

776
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,600
you know

777
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:55,360
um some

778
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:56,399
yes

779
00:30:02,310 --> 00:29:59,440
there's been some closure um i've kind

780
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:02,320
of moved beyond that point of not

781
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:03,840
knowing

782
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:06,480
and it's one of those things that the

783
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:07,760
more

784
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:10,640
you go down the rabbit hole

785
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:15,919
you you get to know uh more about

786
00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:18,320
the phenomenon but you don't

787
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,799
there it almost causes more questions

788
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:23,360
than answers as you get to know it

789
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:24,880
because

790
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:27,360
figuring out what makes it tick is

791
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,640
really

792
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:31,039
you know where that where that shift at

793
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,679
least from a human perspective

794
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:35,440
you you just have to wonder what is the

795
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:38,000
supreme goal of

796
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,840
some of these things are they just

797
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:41,360
watching us

798
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:42,559
are they

799
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,320
somehow

800
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,159
you know feeding our chronically just

801
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:48,480
off of our emotions

802
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,360
or

803
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,039
is there something entirely different

804
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:53,840
going on that the motives are where the

805
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:55,360
quandary

806
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,799
it begins

807
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,559
do you have a feeling there's any kind

808
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,159
of um

809
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:01,840
you know maybe

810
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,960
government stuff still going on there

811
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:06,720
as in like maybe it's

812
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,279
still some sort of like test bed for for

813
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,600
different kinds of things

814
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:13,760
i do psychotronic weapons or something

815
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:15,039
perhaps

816
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:17,760
i can only speak um

817
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:19,679
unfortunately i've signed some

818
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,559
some

819
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,880
documents but i can only speak to what's

820
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:24,799
been declassified

821
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,600
publicly which is that in fact there

822
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,120
were you know

823
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:31,360
black budget projects taking place

824
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,960
through plausible deniability and

825
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:34,559
private enterprise

826
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:35,519
and

827
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:38,640
that was uh through the

828
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:41,039
asap program the atip program which have

829
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,399
now been

830
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:44,399
at least publicly

831
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:45,679
acknowledged

832
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:46,720
so

833
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:52,640
for sure

834
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:53,760
um

835
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:56,000
have you

836
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:58,159
found yourself collaborating at all with

837
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:01,440
uh researchers past and present

838
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,840
from the ranch or otherwise on you know

839
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,600
some of the things you find maybe some

840
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,960
of the things they find kind of working

841
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:08,799
together perhaps

842
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,840
sure

843
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,360
it's it's

844
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:12,720
you know it's interesting that you

845
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,799
mentioned the psychotronic weapons and i

846
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:16,159
don't want to let that you know i don't

847
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,480
want to just try to avoid that because

848
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:20,080
yeah no go ahead

849
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:22,720
yeah there's been a lot absolutely that

850
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:23,919
has been

851
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:25,279
insisted

852
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,080
by

853
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:28,399
members of the cia who believe they have

854
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:31,840
been targeted by um psychotronic weapons

855
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:37,430
much much will be learned i think um

856
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:38,640
coming up

857
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:40,399
and uh

858
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,159
you know it's it's something people

859
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:44,960
refer to as the havana syndrome

860
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:47,440
and there have been cases

861
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:49,679
near the epicenter of activity that have

862
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:52,399
affected people's lives similarly

863
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,320
and yeah it's a very real phenomenon

864
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,480
uh

865
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,039
and you know not not

866
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,120
not to uh

867
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:05,919
not to go off topic but

868
00:33:11,710 --> 00:33:09,360
you know this is technology that

869
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:11,720
it would be

870
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:14,960
irresponsible of our government to not

871
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:16,960
want to understand

872
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:18,880
what is taking place in a lot of these

873
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:21,679
areas of high strangeness there is an

874
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:25,360
intense interest in rising to the

875
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:27,760
occasion and trying to

876
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:30,159
not only

877
00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:32,159
figure out what's taking place and

878
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:35,679
defend against it but also possibly

879
00:33:40,149 --> 00:33:38,720
weaponize from a defensive standpoint

880
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:40,159
um

881
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:41,519
so that

882
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:43,679
it's not used by our enemies

883
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,240
and this is this is super super

884
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:47,600
prevalent you know

885
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,679
throughout modern history

886
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:51,120
we have

887
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,120
you don't have to go back very far

888
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,200
we have you know the germans that were

889
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:57,120
very into the occult and using just

890
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:59,200
about any trick in the book

891
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:00,720
to weaponize

892
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:03,120
and use on the battlefield whether that

893
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:04,799
be

894
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:07,120
drug drug-induced psychosis or i mean

895
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:09,119
you name it they were using it and the

896
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:12,480
same can be said of many other bad uh

897
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:15,280
players in in the world stage a

898
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,800
gentleman

899
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:18,800
involved in intelligence um out of

900
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,520
maryland was explaining to me one day

901
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,119
just how many

902
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:24,960
you know evil dark forces there are in

903
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:27,599
the world today and and how vigilant our

904
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:29,919
government has to be defensively

905
00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:32,800
just just to stay abreast just just to

906
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:36,159
keep you know its population safe and

907
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:38,240
you know act as a sentinel to keep other

908
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:40,159
countries safe as well

909
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,599
yeah i mean

910
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:43,040
that's a great point i mean you you

911
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:44,720
think about um

912
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:46,960
you know some of the symptoms of havana

913
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:48,560
syndrome which are

914
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,159
very similar to

915
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:51,919
you know a symptom maybe you would get

916
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,119
from an emp type of attack and

917
00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:57,599
um you know even if you just watch the

918
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,599
skin marker ranch show you know people

919
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:01,040
getting headaches

920
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:04,240
you know getting radiation burns

921
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:05,440
you know

922
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:06,880
it seems

923
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:11,680
sure but you know then people tend to

924
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:13,119
think well

925
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:16,400
are these just bad people bad players

926
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,520
and maybe

927
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,200
you know some of them could be but maybe

928
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,119
they've also you know weaponized it

929
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:23,359
something that also exists as well which

930
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:26,560
is some sort of odd ufo

931
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,480
technology as well because you know

932
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:30,560
those symptoms have been reported from

933
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:33,200
ufos going back decades so

934
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:34,480
um

935
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:35,440
you know

936
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,069
militaries governments want to stay

937
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:44,320
powerful right and that could be part of

938
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:45,680
the reason why they keep some of the

939
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:47,200
secret

940
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,720
is because they want to figure it out

941
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,480
and use it for their own

942
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,560
you know purposes how to

943
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,160
weaponize it how to defend against

944
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:55,680
somebody else who might weaponize it

945
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,240
before they tell anybody about anything

946
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,480
what is your take on that

947
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:03,040
yeah you have to stay abreast of it and

948
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,240
we have unique unique

949
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,480
factors within the confines of the

950
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:11,200
united states that have been

951
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:15,200
just epic in our

952
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:20,310
being you know a world power which cares

953
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:22,720
about other countries as well and a

954
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:25,040
really good example of that is you know

955
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:28,560
the navajo code talkers that were used

956
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,680
um

957
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:31,119
back uh

958
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,480
in the 40s

959
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:35,119
and you know the indian

960
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:37,920
code talkers uh very much often called

961
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:40,480
the navajo code talkers

962
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:43,839
they they were an asset that our enemies

963
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:45,760
could not figure out

964
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:48,720
and there has been

965
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:52,880
a lot of other complex uh scenarios

966
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,359
where native american

967
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,680
and other

968
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,440
assets that we have

969
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,960
in this country

970
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:02,160
provide

971
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:03,440
kind of an

972
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,960
unfair advantage

973
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,000
um

974
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:09,280
which we need because uh these these bad

975
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:10,960
these bad

976
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,480
darker

977
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:14,160
forces out there

978
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,119
um they they don't play by the rules so

979
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,359
you kind of need an unfair advantage

980
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,520
right that that's a good point it's like

981
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,839
um you know you want to be

982
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,839
um

983
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:27,520
above board you want to you want to have

984
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:29,839
your morals and integrity but you're

985
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,680
fighting against an enemy that doesn't

986
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:34,160
give two craps about that they just want

987
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:36,160
to win

988
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,200
they play dirty right they play dirty

989
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,520
so tell me a little bit about uh

990
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:43,520
your podcast you have a it's

991
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:46,000
called hero paranormal uh yeah it's

992
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,800
called

993
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:48,880
yeah yeah what do you do there who do

994
00:37:52,390 --> 00:37:51,040
you interview folks do you just um talk

995
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:52,400
about you know

996
00:37:56,589 --> 00:37:54,880
ufo stuff so let me have it

997
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:56,599
sure um it's

998
00:38:01,990 --> 00:37:59,520
heroparanormal.com um not it it started

999
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,000
out as the hyper anomalous esoteric

1000
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:04,400
research organization podcast and that's

1001
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:07,040
where hero comes from but i also try to

1002
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,720
find people that are kind of heroes in

1003
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:09,920
their field

1004
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:10,880
and

1005
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:13,520
people that have um

1006
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:16,240
not the not the normal

1007
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:17,839
story that you hear everywhere else in

1008
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:20,400
mainstream media so everybody's got a

1009
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:23,680
podcast these days it's a lot of fun and

1010
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:25,839
it's a great example as i said i don't

1011
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:28,800
do it for the money but it's a great

1012
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,760
example that everybody is doing podcasts

1013
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:33,280
because it it

1014
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,599
affords you the opportunity to speak

1015
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:37,760
with people at least myself

1016
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,359
to speak with individuals i would

1017
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,680
otherwise not have an excuse to contact

1018
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:44,079
and want to discuss these items with

1019
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,680
right it's a lot easier to say hey i've

1020
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:47,440
got a podcast and i would like to talk

1021
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:48,800
to you about this

1022
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:51,040
than you know calling cold calling

1023
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:52,640
somebody and saying hey i'm interested

1024
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:54,640
in this can i talk to you for an hour

1025
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:55,760
right

1026
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,680
yeah if i didn't have the podcast angle

1027
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:59,359
when i when i cold called you i don't

1028
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:00,560
know that it would

1029
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:03,839
would have went over at all so

1030
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:09,270
um

1031
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,200
tell me about some of your

1032
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:17,520
your goals uh where do you see yourself

1033
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,000
with uh space wolf research your podcast

1034
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:22,400
as a person you know in the next three

1035
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,920
to five years or so what do you what do

1036
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:25,200
you hope to see what do you hope to

1037
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:27,040
accomplish

1038
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:30,320
you know um my goals

1039
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,160
are not what they used to be and uh

1040
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:36,480
i i think it was gandhi that said

1041
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:39,920
whatever you do probably will whatever

1042
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:41,760
you do probably won't matter much in the

1043
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:42,480
end

1044
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:44,720
but it's vitally important that you do

1045
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:45,599
it

1046
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:46,560
and

1047
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,119
that's kind of my take on

1048
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:51,440
all of this and my other goals

1049
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:53,200
you have to set goals and you have to

1050
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:55,599
attain those goals will it really make a

1051
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:56,880
difference in the greater scheme of

1052
00:40:00,870 --> 00:40:00,000
things probably not but for

1053
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:00,880
me

1054
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,880
it will make a huge difference it will

1055
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,800
keep me motivated it will keep me kind

1056
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:06,960
of in the circle

1057
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:08,960
if there's you know just a tidbit of

1058
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,319
information that i can add to the soup

1059
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:13,839
and it can

1060
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:15,920
assist someone else in achieving their

1061
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:18,000
goals then i've done my part

1062
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,240
yeah great i love it

1063
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:21,760
um

1064
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:24,480
do you know you're in vegas so

1065
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:26,000
what are you doing out in vegas is that

1066
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:27,599
like uh your

1067
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:30,640
your day jobs out there so to speak and

1068
00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:34,560
you're you're trying to be normal life

1069
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:35,830
but trying to be normal

1070
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:47,190
i moved down here about seven years ago

1071
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,079
and

1072
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:49,680
i

1073
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:54,240
and um

1074
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,520
amazingly

1075
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,599
trying to figure out how to do something

1076
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,280
in the uintah basin this is a great

1077
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,359
example of how you never end up where

1078
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:02,960
you think you're going to

1079
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:04,480
trying to figure out what i would do for

1080
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:07,920
work out there i just fell into

1081
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,480
property management and

1082
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:13,200
that's what i currently still do

1083
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,640
i've done it

1084
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:17,599
for many years now and it's not

1085
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:20,400
at all what i ever thought i would be

1086
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:22,400
doing so

1087
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,319
um yeah i'm down here i moved down here

1088
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:26,240
because my mom was here and then i met

1089
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,000
my wife down here and now i have a

1090
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,880
family down here i still uh

1091
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:32,960
love to go to utah still have the

1092
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:35,599
majority of my properties in utah

1093
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:37,359
and

1094
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:39,119
you know interestingly enough that

1095
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:40,800
connection between utah and vegas

1096
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:43,280
continues so yeah it's a

1097
00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:45,920
strange thing interesting hey uh since

1098
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:47,839
city and the mormons what is up with

1099
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:50,480
that i'm just kidding

1100
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:52,319
um let me

1101
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:54,000
what do you do like commercial

1102
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,359
properties

1103
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,599
or no no i don't do commercial i leave

1104
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,760
that to the big boy

1105
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:00,960
just checking

1106
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:02,960
yeah i wish i did i heard there's a lot

1107
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:05,760
of money in it oh really yeah well you

1108
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:06,640
you

1109
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:16,870
so um

1110
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,760
it

1111
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:19,200
you know i usually

1112
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,119
i try to give opportunity to the guests

1113
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,839
as well to you know talk about something

1114
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:25,440
that they may want to talk about because

1115
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:26,720
you know i'm not going to ask all the

1116
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:29,040
right questions and maybe something

1117
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,480
there's something that uh you want to

1118
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:32,640
get off your chest or or discuss whether

1119
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,440
it's

1120
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:35,280
you know the nasa

1121
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:36,400
saying they're

1122
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,319
you know investigating umps the current

1123
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,640
course of disclosure anything you want

1124
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:42,720
um what what's on your mind anything out

1125
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,520
there that you want to talk about

1126
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:48,240
um you know there's been a lot of a

1127
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:51,760
shift happening and i i like it

1128
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:58,470
you know consciousness is now becoming

1129
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,440
more mainstream and people are

1130
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:03,520
influenced and motivated by

1131
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:06,400
consciousness studies i i think that you

1132
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:08,880
know the reality of artificial

1133
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:11,760
intelligence quantum mechanics

1134
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:14,720
consciousness and particular regions

1135
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,390
this land

1136
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:20,640
is more conducive to the study of all

1137
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:22,079
those things

1138
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:25,680
it just is kind of a trifecta of

1139
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:27,760
importance we don't know exactly what

1140
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,480
that importance is yet at least i don't

1141
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,720
but it does seem as if those all those

1142
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,960
factors work together in some way shape

1143
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:36,079
or form

1144
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:37,280
and

1145
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,520
i recently as an example i don't know if

1146
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:42,000
you've seen the new top gun movie

1147
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:43,920
i haven't i want to

1148
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,720
yeah it's great i highly recommend it

1149
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:48,400
i just heard that they were

1150
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,599
doing it

1151
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:51,119
in one of these

1152
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,040
i think it's 4dx theaters where the

1153
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,960
seats move and the wind blows and the

1154
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,200
things rumble and i was like oh

1155
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:59,359
man

1156
00:44:01,670 --> 00:44:00,800
so much better

1157
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:01,680
um

1158
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:04,720
yeah that that show uh

1159
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:05,520
it

1160
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:07,440
pervades some of the more modern

1161
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,480
technology

1162
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:11,119
that our government is engaging with

1163
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,599
and in speaking with a government

1164
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:16,319
employee after i watched that show

1165
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:19,200
they were mentioning to me that

1166
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,800
our new fighter jets have a form of

1167
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,240
artificial intelligence in the

1168
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:26,160
instrument panel

1169
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:29,359
where it can inform the pilots

1170
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,240
of

1171
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,240
when they see an unidentified aerial

1172
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:34,720
phenomenon whether that is

1173
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:37,839
a friendly a neutral or a threat

1174
00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:41,119
and that is kind of the type of stuff

1175
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:42,160
that

1176
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:46,240
yeah

1177
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,079
there's multiple unidentified aerial

1178
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:52,880
phenomena that could be neutral a threat

1179
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:00,150
yeah fascinating stuff awesome um yeah i

1180
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,200
i would uh tend to agree with you i love

1181
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,920
i like that we're kind of trying to

1182
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:07,920
expand consciousness at least study it

1183
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:09,359
explore it

1184
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,560
um

1185
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:12,560
i've learned you know in doing that

1186
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:13,920
myself

1187
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:16,319
um at the very least

1188
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,520
you you'll relax a little bit you know

1189
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,079
and and you tend to enjoy the moments

1190
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,480
the now the present versus spending so

1191
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,240
much time looking forward or backwards

1192
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:28,079
which we all do you know like we're

1193
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:29,680
trained to do that

1194
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:32,640
and we we kind of forget about this

1195
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,720
exact very moment

1196
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,000
you know

1197
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:38,319
which i think is so crucial to do

1198
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,200
instead of just basically

1199
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:43,119
living in your imagination

1200
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:44,319
you know

1201
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,160
whether it's uh what happened before or

1202
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:48,640
what's gonna happen it's just their

1203
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:50,319
thoughts

1204
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:51,359
you know

1205
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,560
it's it's not uh the current so

1206
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:56,400
you know i really can't appreciate that

1207
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,160
and anyone else who can appreciate that

1208
00:46:01,589 --> 00:46:00,319
because uh to me that means that we're

1209
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:01,599
we're on to

1210
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:04,640
uh hopefully a different

1211
00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:05,839
worldview

1212
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:07,599
you know which i think would be

1213
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,920
fantastic i think we may even learn more

1214
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,760
about this stuff the farther we go down

1215
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:13,440
that road

1216
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,640
but uh

1217
00:46:20,069 --> 00:46:17,520
time will tell i suppose so

1218
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:20,079
a quick question for you here i'm just

1219
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,760
kind of just popped in my brain as i was

1220
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:23,280
talking but uh

1221
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:26,160
um do you have any uh

1222
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:28,880
religious background were you born and

1223
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:31,280
raised like uh like catholic or anything

1224
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:33,200
like that by chance

1225
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,000
yep

1226
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,400
born and raised catholic altar boy i was

1227
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:39,359
born in costa rica um and there you know

1228
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,640
that culture

1229
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,800
in central america

1230
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,240
is um

1231
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:46,240
right with high strangeness as well

1232
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,200
there's these

1233
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,680
strange stone costa rican balls that are

1234
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:51,520
in the rain forest

1235
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,640
ufos are more openly discussed there

1236
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,440
witchcraft is more openly discussed so i

1237
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:59,280
have kind of a different upbringing i

1238
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:00,880
was definitely

1239
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,720
my nut was cracked open a little bit

1240
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,560
sooner than i think uh

1241
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:06,560
it would have been if i wasn't raised in

1242
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:08,400
a more western tradition

1243
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:09,200
but

1244
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,240
it is um yeah my background is catholic

1245
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:14,560
and um my views have changed i'm

1246
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,440
definitely more omnitistic at this point

1247
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:19,839
but uh there's uh

1248
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,680
there's you know it i think it's one of

1249
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:23,599
those things it doesn't matter what you

1250
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:26,079
believe in as long as you believe

1251
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:27,119
and

1252
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,720
so that's that

1253
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,640
yeah you know as long as you have

1254
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:32,800
something that you believe in

1255
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:36,240
that supports foundationally

1256
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,319
a lot of other things in your life and i

1257
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,240
i really appreciate that you say living

1258
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,160
in the moment because we really don't

1259
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,119
know what is going to happen we don't

1260
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,200
i just found out today that a

1261
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:49,839
friend of mine's brother his uh 16 year

1262
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:51,760
old was hiking up in the mountains and

1263
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:52,559
um

1264
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,160
fell to her death and

1265
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:56,160
you know it's just moments we just had a

1266
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,359
moment

1267
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:59,280
and you know she was here yesterday you

1268
00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,880
hear it all the time

1269
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,559
and

1270
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,599
you know the past illusion

1271
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,440
the future fear

1272
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:09,440
it's all

1273
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:10,559
not

1274
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,880
now and so i appreciate that you said

1275
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,880
yeah living in the moment

1276
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:15,839
yeah

1277
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:18,880
no um it it's not that i'm good at it

1278
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,760
but i know that i i tried to do it

1279
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:23,920
you know because you you nailed it you

1280
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,040
know fear of uh what could be and

1281
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:29,200
um you know let in the past torture you

1282
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:30,800
basically and what you think are

1283
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:32,079
mistakes and

1284
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,359
what you could have did or should have

1285
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:35,680
did or or whatever you know

1286
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,200
and um

1287
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,880
i don't think life is supposed to be

1288
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:41,200
about that right life is we got to find

1289
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:42,559
a way to

1290
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,319
uh manage to appreciate the present

1291
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,000
right because the past is the past and

1292
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,079
the future isn't here yet and those are

1293
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,319
really just imagination thoughts in your

1294
00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:54,079
brain you know

1295
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:57,040
um and how often does do things actually

1296
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,880
transpire the way you think of it in the

1297
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:01,680
future you know and actually how often

1298
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,480
are things really what you make the past

1299
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,559
out to be you know so many times

1300
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:08,240
something bad will happen to you or you

1301
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:10,880
take it as something bad and we don't

1302
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:14,000
even realize that uh maybe the reason

1303
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,000
we're here right now which we're

1304
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:18,400
grateful you know for the moment is

1305
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:21,200
because of that bad thing that happened

1306
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,640
you know

1307
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,960
that's something um i try to remember

1308
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:26,400
all this time like whether it's an

1309
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,240
ex-wife or whatever

1310
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:30,640
ex-wife's a great one you know at the

1311
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,040
time when you break up or whatever

1312
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:35,200
you're like you think it's the worst

1313
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:38,400
thing in the world you know but uh you'd

1314
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:40,400
never imagine how you would feel

1315
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:43,760
five years from that moment one you're

1316
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,960
in love with somebody you actually do

1317
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,240
belong with

1318
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:50,240
and what that feels like

1319
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,839
um

1320
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:54,000
you know if you didn't know that you you

1321
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,920
wouldn't shed one tear back then you

1322
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:57,359
know you know

1323
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,720
so

1324
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,720
that's you know just uh bounce off of

1325
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,319
your point a little bit we we don't know

1326
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,079
what's going to happen in the future and

1327
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:07,040
having some faith believing in something

1328
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:07,920
um

1329
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:09,040
you know

1330
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:10,319
uh maybe you can put you in the right

1331
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:11,520
place

1332
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:14,240
you never know but

1333
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,359
um

1334
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,280
with that being said i know you said he

1335
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:18,880
had 50 minutes here and we hit the

1336
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,599
50-minute mark so uh i'll just say

1337
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:23,359
anything else you want to leave us with

1338
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,400
um contact information where to find you

1339
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:28,480
uh anything like that

1340
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:29,440
um

1341
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,280
kind of uh i think we've covered most of

1342
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:33,839
it heroparanormal.com

1343
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,270
and

1344
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:40,000
ryanpatrickburns.com you can get books

1345
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,280
there so

1346
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,119
cool sweet man well i added you on

1347
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:44,960
twitter so i'll be looking for you there

1348
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:45,760
too

1349
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,400
so and uh don't be a stranger hopefully

1350
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:51,119
you come back and we can talk more

1351
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,079
so

1352
00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:54,640
um i really appreciated the time brother

1353
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:56,319
thank you sean appreciate you and what

1354
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,640
you're doing yeah thanks man you take

1355
00:51:02,710 --> 00:50:59,520
care

1356
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,710
all right everybody uh that was fun that

1357
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:07,200
was mr ryan burns from spacewolf

1358
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:09,920
research it's been a long day that's for

1359
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:11,200
sure

1360
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:13,359
um and it was great to end on that note

1361
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:17,040
with was such a good dude like him so

1362
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:18,800
i appreciate you guys hanging out bob

1363
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,040
laura elena craig

1364
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:23,760
like the video share subscribe if you

1365
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,839
can lord bass

1366
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:27,119
um

1367
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:30,319
bob mentioned

1368
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,079
oh that song i don't think we're alone

1369
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,480
he likes that one yeah i like that one

1370
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:37,280
too that's fun

1371
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:39,680
so um

1372
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:41,680
yeah i appreciate it guys um i'm gonna

1373
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:43,599
get out of here and get some rest we

1374
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,400
have

1375
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:46,319
uh danny silva on tomorrow at two

1376
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,440
o'clock that was supposed to be on

1377
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:49,119
saturday but it's actually going to be

1378
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,559
tomorrow

1379
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:52,880
uh which is great so i can't wait to

1380
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:55,520
talk to him um go to his uh website

1381
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,280
silverrecord.com

1382
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:59,520
we're going to talk about uh that latest

1383
00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:01,200
piece that he put out regarding the

1384
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,160
niagara balls ufo and i'm sure we'll

1385
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:05,839
talk about the

1386
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:07,920
uh nasa news as well

1387
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,240
and then on saturday we have uap book

1388
00:52:15,470 --> 00:52:12,720
club on priscilla's channel um quantum

1389
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:15,480
witch cafe which we are going to discuss

1390
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,119
extraterrestrial by um avi loeb which

1391
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:21,359
which is a pretty good book so

1392
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,040
and you can find that on priscilla's

1393
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:25,040
channel once again quantum witchcap 8

1394
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:27,760
and that's at 2 pm central on saturday

1395
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:31,680
so i can't wait to see you guys again

1396
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:33,599
i always appreciate it

1397
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:35,920
and i always cherish the time that we

1398
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:38,720
have together so with that being said

1399
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:40,240
i will

1400
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:42,880
check you later

1401
00:53:10,670 --> 00:52:49,000
citizens

1402
00:53:12,730 --> 00:53:10,680
[Music]

1403
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:12,740
[Applause]

1404
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,829
say that the recent sightings are in no

1405
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:21,359
way connected

1406
00:53:29,390 --> 00:53:23,920
with any secret development by any

1407
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:40,309
[Music]

1408
00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:44,690
witnesses

1409
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:47,750
[Music]

1410
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:50,720
they will be focusing on

1411
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:54,690
proactively identifying objects

1412
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:02,549
the pentagon

1413
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:03,599
they have